Original Message----- From: Al Sutton [mailto:asutton@argosytelcrest.com] Sent: 24 February 2006 8:33

To: Craig Wright; 'dave kleiman'; 'Darren W Miller'

https://marc.info/?l=security-basics&m=114080882901616&w=2&s=09

Forensic/Cyber Crime Investigator
From: "Craig Wright" <cwright () bdosyd com au>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006

https://seclists.org/basics/2006/Feb/155?s=09

“Dave was a special man. He gave far, far more than he ever took. Dave never shied away from offering more and more. He didn’t say no. What Dave did was help people be better.”

https://t.co/4ubOWdAlCg

Original: https://t.co/jtjRO2ZaXd

🙏

It’s extremely important to NEVER downplay how important Dave Kleiman’s contribution to information security, society and eventually Bitcoin was.

https://t.co/qjU8YJV6eq https://t.co/PqZrQAPb1I

Serving his country and helping to protect and provide security in an increasingly insecure world.

https://t.co/RMPy7ve0FO https://t.co/7g2j2TOpIf

From: Craig Wright [mailto:cwright@bdosyd.com.au]
Sent: 23 February 2006 21:10
To: dave kleiman; Darren W Miller
Cc: Al Sutton; defendingthenet
Subject: RE: Why Easy To Use Software Is Putting You At Risk



Hello,

Dave stated; "Craig.. And be gentle Craig will pick apart opinions and bring back \
factual information without batting an eye."

True and I am always open to being proved wrong. The thing is that I have to be \
PROVED Wrong. Opinion and anecdotal evidence is not proof. Validated points and \
correctly collected statistical data are.

As much as many people find this difficult to believe (even my wife) I enjoy being \
proved wrong. It is both a learning opportunity for my self and a demonstration that \
others are engaging in serious peer review processes outside of academe.

In the past 20 years I have performed close to 5,000 engagements. At the moment I am \
conducting one of the largest vulnerability and risk assessments ever conducted in \
Australia in association with the Attorney Generals CNVA programme.

The first issue to address is yes you found a vulnerability and it was exploitable. \
What is the risk? The impact threat vectors and other analysis factors need to be \
considered. Vulnerabilities do not matter by themselves. They create a risk \
potential. When you understand this you will both serve your clients more effectively \
and also add value in a manner they will understand. You need to sell to management. \
They understand finance and risk. Vulnerabilities are FUD. They do not help.

As for engineering something not to fail. This is where I have an issue with people \
who think they are engineers. Engineering is the process of building something to a \
set specification. An example is giving a 95% Confidence Internal of a 5 year \
expected life. It involves the analysis and design of hazard functions and survival \
processes.

Regards,
Craig https://marc.info/?l=security-basics&m=114080882901616&w=2

PS this is about as nice as I get unless people actually seek to open their minds and \
learn.

"Darren, I know you are used to posting articles at CastleCops were the home user is the basic audience and nobody is retorting, but when you step into this arena you will see some serious professionals in varying fields and they will not let misinformation slide. You of course do not have to respond to the responses, but expect even heavier discussion when you post and disappear.

By the way if you were to post this at a higher level forum such as pen-test, they would eat your below write-up for breakfast. But since you left it off post, I did the same....however I know Craig loves pen-testing so he may not".

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: dave kleiman [mailto:dave@davekleiman.com]
Sent: 23 February 2006 4:25
To: 'Darren W Miller'
Cc: Craig Wright; 'Al Sutton';'defendingthenet'
Subject: Why Easy To Use Software Is Putting You At Risk

https://marc.info/?l=security-basics&m=114080882901616&w=2

Respectfully,
________________________________
Dave Kleiman, CAS,CCE,CIFI,CISM,CISSP,ISSAP,ISSMP,MCSE

https://marc.info/?l=security-basics&m=114080882901616&w=2

You can download a DOS-based utility HDDerase that securely erases all data on ATA \
hard disk drives via the internal secure erase command. \
http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml


And yes, I am the same Dave Kleiman from the paper.
https://marc.info/?l=cryptography&m=123254804719371&w=2

Minute 29:44
- What about Dave Kleiman?

4. Copyright on the Bitcoin White Paper - Satoshi Nakamoto - Dr. Craig S. Wright & Ryan X. Charles
26 ene 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsQJVqvGBLY

Haciendo una limpieza en mi drive, me encuentro esto y me pregunto, Que habré visto yo en este video de Dave Kleiman, que me hice una copia, junto con mis videos personales, con fecha tres días después de su Fallecimiento el 26 de abril de 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkN4Qr4uz4w&t=6s

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If anyone can falsify my claims, I go to prison. I have sworn in testimony that I am Satoshi Nakamoto, and I created bitcoin. To journalists, there is no way to prove. Anything can be taken and twisted in social media. You can't do that in court if you twist the narrative and you lie you face the consequences.

Others who claim to be Satoshi so that they can gain fame have to prove their point. Each point of evidence needs to be falsifiable. If it can be falsified, they face prison time. There is nothing from any of these people that I cannot falsify. I can demonstrate categorically in court with evidence that all of these people have created a false narrative to either defraud people or engage in other scams.

Those like Gizmodo and Wired were not interested in the real story. It's the same as that author who wanted to paint me in the same light Julian Assage. But of course, is the false narrative we get to take part. The way that that story was written was to sell a populist idea of what bitcoin and Satoshi mean, and it is not what I intended. It is not why I invented bitcoin, and it is not the story that needs to be told.

What I expect to happen is that people like Roger and Vitelik will oppose me because they know their scams require that I do not get a voice. They will seek to censor me and will be seen to do such. Then, everything that there claiming will be shown to be false and malicious. Next, we would expect many of the other scammers who have to double down to attack, and they can claim that they worked with me and that they were part of this and this is why we need to keep some things close. If everything is out there, I cannot discredit others who seek to say that they were part of the Satoshi group.

That idiot in BCH, David and others he worked with planned Jihan and wanted me to be a part of a larger group early on which gives them power. People like Bear, Hal and Dave, helped me, but they did not create bitcoin. They didn't even really know what bitcoin was. Even Dave wrote not a single line of code. He gave me a few grammatical suggestions on the Whitepaper and his real role was keeping me psychologically sane as I dealt with these people. He was a sounding board and a friend.

What we are going to find is the narrative changes to say that these were part of my group. We already see this. If they know the full story, these people can twist and become seemingly part of it and lie, it becomes hard for us to weed them out.
But going forward, I have things they don't know. And they won't be able to give them before we get them in court and tear them apart. Once we have a few people torn apart, preferably people who are under oath and then demonstrated to have perjured themselves we can ensure that others know that if they do this if they seek to add themselves to my story, I always have something that will ruin them.

This is why we need court because otherwise other people are going to twist the story and continue their scams.

CSW
May 25, 2019

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