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Original Message----- From: Al Sutton [mailto:asutton@argosytelcrest.com] Sent: 24 February 2006 8:33

To: Craig Wright; 'dave kleiman'; 'Darren W Miller'

https://marc.info/?l=security-basics&m=114080882901616&w=2&s=09
Forensic/Cyber Crime Investigator
From: "Craig Wright" <cwright () bdosyd com au>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006

https://seclists.org/basics/2006/Feb/155?s=09
From: Craig Wright [mailto:cwright@bdosyd.com.au]
Sent: 23 February 2006 21:10
To: dave kleiman; Darren W Miller
Cc: Al Sutton; defendingthenet
Subject: RE: Why Easy To Use Software Is Putting You At Risk



Hello,

Dave stated; "Craig.. And be gentle Craig will pick apart opinions and bring back \
factual information without batting an eye."

True and I am always open to being proved wrong. The thing is that I have to be \
PROVED Wrong. Opinion and anecdotal evidence is not proof. Validated points and \
correctly collected statistical data are.

As much as many people find this difficult to believe (even my wife) I enjoy being \
proved wrong. It is both a learning opportunity for my self and a demonstration that \
others are engaging in serious peer review processes outside of academe.

In the past 20 years I have performed close to 5,000 engagements. At the moment I am \
conducting one of the largest vulnerability and risk assessments ever conducted in \
Australia in association with the Attorney Generals CNVA programme.

The first issue to address is yes you found a vulnerability and it was exploitable. \
What is the risk? The impact threat vectors and other analysis factors need to be \
considered. Vulnerabilities do not matter by themselves. They create a risk \
potential. When you understand this you will both serve your clients more effectively \
and also add value in a manner they will understand. You need to sell to management. \
They understand finance and risk. Vulnerabilities are FUD. They do not help.

As for engineering something not to fail. This is where I have an issue with people \
who think they are engineers. Engineering is the process of building something to a \
set specification. An example is giving a 95% Confidence Internal of a 5 year \
expected life. It involves the analysis and design of hazard functions and survival \
processes.

Regards,
Craig https://marc.info/?l=security-basics&m=114080882901616&w=2

PS this is about as nice as I get unless people actually seek to open their minds and \
learn.
"Darren, I know you are used to posting articles at CastleCops were the home user is the basic audience and nobody is retorting, but when you step into this arena you will see some serious professionals in varying fields and they will not let misinformation slide. You of course do not have to respond to the responses, but expect even heavier discussion when you post and disappear.

By the way if you were to post this at a higher level forum such as pen-test, they would eat your below write-up for breakfast. But since you left it off post, I did the same....however I know Craig loves pen-testing so he may not".

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: dave kleiman [mailto:dave@davekleiman.com]
Sent: 23 February 2006 4:25
To: 'Darren W Miller'
Cc: Craig Wright; 'Al Sutton';'defendingthenet'
Subject: Why Easy To Use Software Is Putting You At Risk

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Respectfully,
________________________________
Dave Kleiman, CAS,CCE,CIFI,CISM,CISSP,ISSAP,ISSMP,MCSE

https://marc.info/?l=security-basics&m=114080882901616&w=2
You can download a DOS-based utility HDDerase that securely erases all data on ATA \
hard disk drives via the internal secure erase command. \
http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml


And yes, I am the same Dave Kleiman from the paper.
https://marc.info/?l=cryptography&m=123254804719371&w=2
Minute 29:44
- What about Dave Kleiman?

4. Copyright on the Bitcoin White Paper - Satoshi Nakamoto - Dr. Craig S. Wright & Ryan X. Charles
26 ene 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsQJVqvGBLY
Haciendo una limpieza en mi drive, me encuentro esto y me pregunto, Que habré visto yo en este video de Dave Kleiman, que me hice una copia, junto con mis videos personales, con fecha tres días después de su Fallecimiento el 26 de abril de 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkN4Qr4uz4w&t=6s
Forwarded from Aleksandar Klipic