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Going backwards
1. I will listen to the interview in full for anything else I may have insight on. On the specific section you outlined: Mark is a very slippery customer - in every other instance it is a drawback but in this and other parts he seemed to get a lot more past the interviewer than he should have. He is extremely economical with the truth to the point of blatant distortion, but he words things in a way that he doesn’t technically lie, while avoiding entire areas. This is not a confessional from Mark and that is not his style - but I would be wasting your time going into anecdotes I can’t prove, and he’s inb4’d things like Facebook conversations if they ever did come up.
I don’t know the full extent of interactions he had with Alex Davies, Ryan Fleming, Wayne Bell, Jack Renshaw, and others but all that stuff (from long ago deleted Facebook accounts etc) is fully available to the CPS as ‘bad character evidence’ if Mark was ever charged with a criminal offence or attempted to challenge and PA ban.
With myself - Mark hated me but his approach, when he is in a weaker position, is not direct confrontation. You see that in his leadership style in the way he is aloof from all the issues - he always gives himself room make distance, has a patsy etc. What he said is misleading without going into detail.
2. If Mark is as I suspect being leaned on, then Kris Kearns would not have been unceremoniously frozen out if he was an informant/undercover. It depends what the angle is.
1. I will listen to the interview in full for anything else I may have insight on. On the specific section you outlined: Mark is a very slippery customer - in every other instance it is a drawback but in this and other parts he seemed to get a lot more past the interviewer than he should have. He is extremely economical with the truth to the point of blatant distortion, but he words things in a way that he doesn’t technically lie, while avoiding entire areas. This is not a confessional from Mark and that is not his style - but I would be wasting your time going into anecdotes I can’t prove, and he’s inb4’d things like Facebook conversations if they ever did come up.
I don’t know the full extent of interactions he had with Alex Davies, Ryan Fleming, Wayne Bell, Jack Renshaw, and others but all that stuff (from long ago deleted Facebook accounts etc) is fully available to the CPS as ‘bad character evidence’ if Mark was ever charged with a criminal offence or attempted to challenge and PA ban.
With myself - Mark hated me but his approach, when he is in a weaker position, is not direct confrontation. You see that in his leadership style in the way he is aloof from all the issues - he always gives himself room make distance, has a patsy etc. What he said is misleading without going into detail.
2. If Mark is as I suspect being leaned on, then Kris Kearns would not have been unceremoniously frozen out if he was an informant/undercover. It depends what the angle is.
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Obviously with that doxxes page it has its own strategy - poke response poke response. People lie, come out of the woodwork, fight, it is a living thing.
I have a few days later this week. I don’t feel I have brought anything that significant to the table apart from maybe the Fleming stuff - the purpose in sharing this information has been for guidance. The most damming material is what I have been 100% public about and has been confirmed beyond nightmare in the last few months of this total fucking shitshow - in tandem with changes in law and counter terrorism policy, that is a footnote.
I have a few days later this week. I don’t feel I have brought anything that significant to the table apart from maybe the Fleming stuff - the purpose in sharing this information has been for guidance. The most damming material is what I have been 100% public about and has been confirmed beyond nightmare in the last few months of this total fucking shitshow - in tandem with changes in law and counter terrorism policy, that is a footnote.
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Understood. I tried to get in contact with the only guy who would be able to attest re Sam but he hasn’t come forward- probably afraid I will ask him to take the stand. Hopefully people just calm down when this is over.
I won’t lie to you week 1 (now) is going to be a lot of work. 2 will be sitting around maybe.
I thought about what you said and I would like to make my points conveyed to you into a statement - worst case scenario. Something with context, caveats etc. Something people might listen to.
I can’t know for sure what your motive is but I will again be open about mine.
Five years ago I met some of the best natural leaders of my generation- people unlike most in PA who were willing to literally die for what they thought was right. Then I had my tongue ripped out of my face and my hands tied behind my back while the literal FBI and HNH decimated the entire nationalist movement while all I could do is sit back and watch while my friends ran off the rails or became gay vampires.
We had the excuse of living in a country we thought was free and had no reason to think otherwise. What mark is doing against all warnings is destroying the zoomers - he has been warned by many but ignores it - I won’t speculate on why.
For the past 5 years I have thought about my friends every night and just want to know they are safe, hope to speak to them one day. Nobody in PA can even comprehend this.
What Mark is doing he has no right to do, his people deserve the choice, they deserve to be informed, and he is deliberately misleading them.
I won’t lie to you week 1 (now) is going to be a lot of work. 2 will be sitting around maybe.
I thought about what you said and I would like to make my points conveyed to you into a statement - worst case scenario. Something with context, caveats etc. Something people might listen to.
I can’t know for sure what your motive is but I will again be open about mine.
Five years ago I met some of the best natural leaders of my generation- people unlike most in PA who were willing to literally die for what they thought was right. Then I had my tongue ripped out of my face and my hands tied behind my back while the literal FBI and HNH decimated the entire nationalist movement while all I could do is sit back and watch while my friends ran off the rails or became gay vampires.
We had the excuse of living in a country we thought was free and had no reason to think otherwise. What mark is doing against all warnings is destroying the zoomers - he has been warned by many but ignores it - I won’t speculate on why.
For the past 5 years I have thought about my friends every night and just want to know they are safe, hope to speak to them one day. Nobody in PA can even comprehend this.
What Mark is doing he has no right to do, his people deserve the choice, they deserve to be informed, and he is deliberately misleading them.
Whatever you think of Raymond, he has intimate insider knowledge of counter-terror policing and legislation. He attended all the court cases of his 15 jailed NA associates. You might cope and tell yourself, "yeah but PA isn't comparable, we do not advocate violence". HnH pretty much skull-fucked you on that one. There is plenty of evidence of fedposting on PA's behalf. Not to mention tangible PA connections to mutiple convicted terrorists. Counter Terror is not going to agree with your characterisation of PA's non-violent "plan" to save the white race. Ben was jailed before he was able to send his full statement, that why this is being released now.
The above is not deception. We really do not like the Prevent programme and we really don't want to see autistic Zoomers being locked up for downloading spicy pdfs. There are many in PA who have had Prevent intervention. Many who are alienated further by being groomed. Barkley and Wesley being arrested/raided is a good example of how the young and more vulnerable are targeted by not just groups like PA but also the state. The arrests/seizures are merely excuses for intelligence gathering. You can bet all the devices taken were cloned and backed up onto Gov servers using Cellebrite Tech. Telegram has a back door built into it. The PA website and the wider org in general has woeful security. Every supporter is on a watch list.
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Solid but was not prepared for the intensity of the work so not much free time right now. It is going well. Today we had a public schoolboy baratone quartet read through absolutely nothing but meaningless and irrelevant shitpost chats. Beyond that I am silent on details and a clear picture won’t emerge for a couple of weeks.
"It's going well"
This is the last message we got from Raymond. He'll be sentenced to a decade in prison in 2 days time. He has a young family.
Did Raymond actually plan or commit an act of terror? No. You don't need to these days. Think long and hard about who you associate with and whether you want a future for you and your children. PA has too many wronguns and too much NA-crossover for you to not be tainted by their sins.
This is the last message we got from Raymond. He'll be sentenced to a decade in prison in 2 days time. He has a young family.
Did Raymond actually plan or commit an act of terror? No. You don't need to these days. Think long and hard about who you associate with and whether you want a future for you and your children. PA has too many wronguns and too much NA-crossover for you to not be tainted by their sins.
Whether you like it or not, there is already a convicted terrorist linked to PA. We have been told by an inside source that Morrice did indeed attend events IRL and the PA leadership were worried about the optics and how to address it. Keep quiet and carry on rather than publicly disavow a supporter seems to have been the ingenious strategy deployed. There's a lot of shit that goes on behind the scenes that rank and file supporters have no say in or awareness of. They always keep quiet about the many many faces that have left PA too in case it demoralises the troops.
Raymond told us that the only way Sam could have been at this event, in this police kettle with the people he was with and dressed as he was, he had to be in the Yorkshire NA chat on wire. He didn't end up there by "accident" as Towler pathetically claimed. Your leaders are lying to you time and time again and it's your liberty that they're putting at risk.
Sam's mates now. This could be you if one more sperg connected to PA goes beastmode. Ask yourself if appointing ex-NA members to senior positions within PA is a good idea considering 16 and counting ex-NA are now in jail? There's a very real possibility that this is Sam's future as well unless he's cut some kind of deal. Expecting a baby isn't the only reason Sam and Laura are looking a bit rattled.
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I can confirm this is true, PA south west did to be fair panic and close the regional group down and started up another one and didn’t invite this guy back.