❗️According to information from Russia, Pavel Durov's plane was diverted to France. He was unaware until his arrest that he had arrived in France.
#PavelDurov #Telegram #France
#PavelDurov #Telegram #France
Durov's arrest, MI6 agents in Italy and the mysterious disappearance of Meloni – Telegraph
#PavelDurov #Telegram #Darktrace #SyBayesian #Nato
#PavelDurov #Telegram #Darktrace #SyBayesian #Nato
Telegraph
Durov's arrest, MI6 agents in Italy and the mysterious disappearance of Meloni
L’arresto di Durov, gli agenti del MI6 in Italia e la misteriosa sparizione della Meloni - La Cruna dell'Ago - di Cesare Sacchetti – https://www.lacrunadellago.net/larresto-di-durov-gli-agenti-del-mi6-in-italia-e-la-misteriosa-sparizione-della-meloni/ It…
🇷🇺 Russian authorities instruct to delete all sensitive data on Telegram , expecting @durov to give Western services access to user identities and message content.
This applies to all security services, government services, all the highest military officials, all the most important businessmen. Other categories of people will receive the same instructions from the beginning of the week.
https://t.me/bbbreaking/188733
"What is the main point of the Durov case?
That all those who are in the habit of using Telegram for sensitive conversations and correspondences should delete these correspondences from now on and not initiate them in the future.
Because they kidnapped him to get the keys to Telegram. And he will give them away. "
https://t.me/margaritasimonyan/14190
@ZZ_0Z_Z0ZZ_fr
#PavelDurov #Telegram #France #Nato #Censorship #BigBrother
This applies to all security services, government services, all the highest military officials, all the most important businessmen. Other categories of people will receive the same instructions from the beginning of the week.
https://t.me/bbbreaking/188733
"What is the main point of the Durov case?
That all those who are in the habit of using Telegram for sensitive conversations and correspondences should delete these correspondences from now on and not initiate them in the future.
Because they kidnapped him to get the keys to Telegram. And he will give them away. "
https://t.me/margaritasimonyan/14190
@ZZ_0Z_Z0ZZ_fr
#PavelDurov #Telegram #France #Nato #Censorship #BigBrother
Telegram
Раньше всех. Ну почти.
⚡️Российским чиновникам пришло поручение удалить служебные переписки в Telegram
По данным источников «Базы», такое поручение пришло сотрудникам ряда силовых ведомств, а также чиновникам администрации президента и Правительства России. Кроме того, по словам…
По данным источников «Базы», такое поручение пришло сотрудникам ряда силовых ведомств, а также чиновникам администрации президента и Правительства России. Кроме того, по словам…
EuroLag was one of the big blocks that still did not have access to Telegram content
"Recall that in 2017, Russia tried to block Telegram for refusing to store user data on servers located in Russia and for refusing to provide Russian services with user data.
In 2020, the US torpedoed the TON cryptocurrency in its original form, which required a loss of $ 600 million. The company was on the verge of bankruptcy, the public was mentally preparing for the death of the project.
A few weeks later, everything changed: Russia unexpectedly lifted the block on Telegram and money poured in to pay off debts due to the American torpedoing, and then Telegram became a messenger officially used by everyone in Russia, including members of government agencies.
Following this, the second version of TON was funded by a huge number of Russian oligarchs and a well-known rumor said that Russian secret services had gained access to Telegram data.
The same well-known rumor says that American intelligence services also have access to it . Telegram has its own servers located in different parts of the world, and routing is done through the American services of Amazon, Cloudflare and Google. They were the ones who provided the technical capabilities to bypass the blocking of Telegram in Russia, including by making available a huge amount of IP addresses that changed very often, making censorship difficult.
Conversely, since the beginning of Telegram, American services can block the messaging service very easily if they wish.
This article is not about the fate of Pavel Durov, but about the fate of Telegram. A successful "startup" rarely remains under the control of its creator. On the contrary, as soon as the project gains momentum and begins to really influence something, its creator is one way or another removed from his post : either expelled by a decision of the board of directors, or left in the role of an operetta general and media front.
We believe that in the case of Telegram, this happened in 2020, when Durov transferred full or partial control of his company to a “group of Russian investors” in exchange for cash injections and the unblocking of the messenger in Russia.
Why did the French attack Durov? Let's assume that the EU, through Paris, is trying to acquire at least some control over Telegram and social networks in general , since Europe has no social networks. Hence the threats against Twitter and the stifling European legislation on the responsibility of platforms for content , which applies to everyone and not just Telegram.
In short, France and the EU want the same thing as the USA and Russia: to be able to access all correspondence without the slightest official document or waiting time. "
https://t.me/vatfor/9508
#PavelDurov #Telegram #EU #France #Nato
"Recall that in 2017, Russia tried to block Telegram for refusing to store user data on servers located in Russia and for refusing to provide Russian services with user data.
In 2020, the US torpedoed the TON cryptocurrency in its original form, which required a loss of $ 600 million. The company was on the verge of bankruptcy, the public was mentally preparing for the death of the project.
A few weeks later, everything changed: Russia unexpectedly lifted the block on Telegram and money poured in to pay off debts due to the American torpedoing, and then Telegram became a messenger officially used by everyone in Russia, including members of government agencies.
Following this, the second version of TON was funded by a huge number of Russian oligarchs and a well-known rumor said that Russian secret services had gained access to Telegram data.
The same well-known rumor says that American intelligence services also have access to it . Telegram has its own servers located in different parts of the world, and routing is done through the American services of Amazon, Cloudflare and Google. They were the ones who provided the technical capabilities to bypass the blocking of Telegram in Russia, including by making available a huge amount of IP addresses that changed very often, making censorship difficult.
Conversely, since the beginning of Telegram, American services can block the messaging service very easily if they wish.
This article is not about the fate of Pavel Durov, but about the fate of Telegram. A successful "startup" rarely remains under the control of its creator. On the contrary, as soon as the project gains momentum and begins to really influence something, its creator is one way or another removed from his post : either expelled by a decision of the board of directors, or left in the role of an operetta general and media front.
We believe that in the case of Telegram, this happened in 2020, when Durov transferred full or partial control of his company to a “group of Russian investors” in exchange for cash injections and the unblocking of the messenger in Russia.
Why did the French attack Durov? Let's assume that the EU, through Paris, is trying to acquire at least some control over Telegram and social networks in general , since Europe has no social networks. Hence the threats against Twitter and the stifling European legislation on the responsibility of platforms for content , which applies to everyone and not just Telegram.
In short, France and the EU want the same thing as the USA and Russia: to be able to access all correspondence without the slightest official document or waiting time. "
https://t.me/vatfor/9508
#PavelDurov #Telegram #EU #France #Nato
Telegram
Ватфор | Центр политической наркологии
Напомним коротенько: в 2017 году телеграм блокировали (пытались блокировать) за неисполнение закона Яровой, обязывающего хранить переписку на расположенных в России серверах и предоставлять ФСБ доступ к этой переписке по запросу.
В 2020 году власти США…
В 2020 году власти США…
Pavel Durov (Telegram), arrested in France: extended police custody, still many questions - Next –
This Saturday, August 24, he was arrested by the French authorities at Le Bourget airport, "as part of a procedure accusing Telegram of complicity in numerous cases related to drug trafficking, the glorification of terrorism and cyberbullying," explains Le Monde.
TV5 Monde reports that the police custody was extended Sunday evening (it can last up to 96 hours). Two possibilities to come: his release or his presentation to a magistrate with a view to a possible indictment.
Today's warrant was issued by the Ofmin (the Minors' Office) created in August 2023 by decree n°2023 - 829. It is attached to the national directorate of the judicial police. As its name indicates, this office "is competent in the fight against offenses committed against minors", including assaults, rapes, homicides, (cyber)bullying at school, etc.
#PavelDurov #Telegram #FreeDurov
This Saturday, August 24, he was arrested by the French authorities at Le Bourget airport, "as part of a procedure accusing Telegram of complicity in numerous cases related to drug trafficking, the glorification of terrorism and cyberbullying," explains Le Monde.
TV5 Monde reports that the police custody was extended Sunday evening (it can last up to 96 hours). Two possibilities to come: his release or his presentation to a magistrate with a view to a possible indictment.
Today's warrant was issued by the Ofmin (the Minors' Office) created in August 2023 by decree n°2023 - 829. It is attached to the national directorate of the judicial police. As its name indicates, this office "is competent in the fight against offenses committed against minors", including assaults, rapes, homicides, (cyber)bullying at school, etc.
#PavelDurov #Telegram #FreeDurov
🇫🇷 Hackers bombard France with DDoS attacks
Hackers have hit French government websites with Distributed Denial-of-Service (#DDoS) attacks in support of detained #Telegram founder and CEO #PavelDurov.
The targets of the attacks included government platforms, public service portals, an online doctor's appointment system and non-governmental websites such as the Institute of Social Sciences and Politics and the daily newspaper La Voix du Nord. An "escalation of these attacks" is expected in the near future, experts say.
@geopolitics_live
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Hackers have hit French government websites with Distributed Denial-of-Service (#DDoS) attacks in support of detained #Telegram founder and CEO #PavelDurov.
The targets of the attacks included government platforms, public service portals, an online doctor's appointment system and non-governmental websites such as the Institute of Social Sciences and Politics and the daily newspaper La Voix du Nord. An "escalation of these attacks" is expected in the near future, experts say.
@geopolitics_live
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Telegram Founder's Arrest Signals Dangerous Times for Online Free Speech | Reclaim The Net
What’s the message being sent to every tech visionary, journalist, or outspoken citizen? Simple: If you don’t play by the new rules, the state will come for you. They’ve got the handcuffs, the secret orders, and, apparently, the global mandate to ensure that dissenting voices are silenced, one way or another.
This isn’t just about Durov or Telegram. This is about the battle lines being drawn between governments that want absolute control and a shrinking pool of platforms still willing to fight for freedom. These are dangerous times for free speech, and if we don’t pay attention, we might just wake up to find it gone for good.
#Censorship #BigBrother #EU #DSA #PavelDurov #Telegram
What’s the message being sent to every tech visionary, journalist, or outspoken citizen? Simple: If you don’t play by the new rules, the state will come for you. They’ve got the handcuffs, the secret orders, and, apparently, the global mandate to ensure that dissenting voices are silenced, one way or another.
This isn’t just about Durov or Telegram. This is about the battle lines being drawn between governments that want absolute control and a shrinking pool of platforms still willing to fight for freedom. These are dangerous times for free speech, and if we don’t pay attention, we might just wake up to find it gone for good.
#Censorship #BigBrother #EU #DSA #PavelDurov #Telegram
Update on the Western-French attack on @durov /Telegram
The French bureaucracy has said very little on the subject, true to its secretive spirit. However, in one line, it gave an extremely obvious element, on the subject of the "freedoms" that I had mentioned "quickly" yesterday , which only the most observant have been able to read in detail.
Added at the time of proofreading , since the line has become a double-page ...
This is what has seemed obvious for several years and which will explain, with what follows, the obvious accusations.
And that is what it is about: French bureaucrats cannot accept that someone uses and/or provides means of obfuscation in financial exchanges, in circumventing censorship and in circumventing surveillance. This is not possible. And furthermore, making money by providing these means, for a French bureaucrat, is complicity.
Beyond the sole interest in obtaining all or part of Telegram's keys, French bureaucrats will most likely try to dismantle the obfuscation (called "circumvention" of state rules & restrictions in yesterday's article) on Telegram and on TON and the link between the two. And/or punish the offender . To do this, they declare that they are using an important financial case whose resolution is made impossible because of these obfuscations , which allows them to invoke complicity.
In my opinion, we are in for "more" than a few days, even months or years.
Paradoxically, if this is settled in a few days, it is because the bureaucrats will have obtained concrete guarantees that they can ignore all the obfuscations on simple request, and then our dear @durov can be declared cleared of all suspicion in the eyes of the bureaucrats (unless they make him pay for the years during which things have escaped them, and the current delay that allows the beneficiaries to shelter themselves and their money). But in this case, it will be his "investors" who will have suspicions .
If, on the contrary, the case drags on, and even worse, if it even goes to trial and a heavy sentence, this will mean that he has not collaborated on these issues in the eyes of the bureaucrats, and therefore that in their eyes, he is still an accomplice (or that he has revealed to them that he is the incriminated person). But can he collaborate without putting himself in danger ?
In my opinion, we should not be very naive when we talk about big money, billionaire investors in TON, and outrage: the beautiful philosophical values and freedom are used by some, the big words of the charges which frighten, by others.
But it goes without saying that this case has suddenly appeared because those who profit from it are not the French or at worst European or at most Western oligarchs, and they want to torpedo their rivals who circumvent Western rules and laws. Otherwise, it would have been arranged over a meal. Here, the violence against @durov is on a par with the affront that the bureaucrats (and their Franco-European-Western oligarch friends) consider themselves to have suffered. It seems to be a very big affront...
As for the future of Telegram or TON, everything will depend on the outcome of the things that are currently happening in the shadows of French jails and who is currently paying for and controlling Telegram and TON. On this subject, some are talking about associating the penalties for the possible refusal to collaborate with the blocking of Telegram and/or TON in France or Europe, bureaucratically speaking it will be a question of blocking a means used to circumvent the rules & laws.
It will still be extremely interesting.
@durov was impressively naive in going (in every sense of the word) to Paris, French citizenship or not.
@ZZ_0Z_Z0ZZ_fr
#PavelDurov #Telegram
The French bureaucracy has said very little on the subject, true to its secretive spirit. However, in one line, it gave an extremely obvious element, on the subject of the "freedoms" that I had mentioned "quickly" yesterday , which only the most observant have been able to read in detail.
Added at the time of proofreading , since the line has become a double-page ...
This is what has seemed obvious for several years and which will explain, with what follows, the obvious accusations.
And that is what it is about: French bureaucrats cannot accept that someone uses and/or provides means of obfuscation in financial exchanges, in circumventing censorship and in circumventing surveillance. This is not possible. And furthermore, making money by providing these means, for a French bureaucrat, is complicity.
Beyond the sole interest in obtaining all or part of Telegram's keys, French bureaucrats will most likely try to dismantle the obfuscation (called "circumvention" of state rules & restrictions in yesterday's article) on Telegram and on TON and the link between the two. And/or punish the offender . To do this, they declare that they are using an important financial case whose resolution is made impossible because of these obfuscations , which allows them to invoke complicity.
In my opinion, we are in for "more" than a few days, even months or years.
Paradoxically, if this is settled in a few days, it is because the bureaucrats will have obtained concrete guarantees that they can ignore all the obfuscations on simple request, and then our dear @durov can be declared cleared of all suspicion in the eyes of the bureaucrats (unless they make him pay for the years during which things have escaped them, and the current delay that allows the beneficiaries to shelter themselves and their money). But in this case, it will be his "investors" who will have suspicions .
If, on the contrary, the case drags on, and even worse, if it even goes to trial and a heavy sentence, this will mean that he has not collaborated on these issues in the eyes of the bureaucrats, and therefore that in their eyes, he is still an accomplice (or that he has revealed to them that he is the incriminated person). But can he collaborate without putting himself in danger ?
In my opinion, we should not be very naive when we talk about big money, billionaire investors in TON, and outrage: the beautiful philosophical values and freedom are used by some, the big words of the charges which frighten, by others.
But it goes without saying that this case has suddenly appeared because those who profit from it are not the French or at worst European or at most Western oligarchs, and they want to torpedo their rivals who circumvent Western rules and laws. Otherwise, it would have been arranged over a meal. Here, the violence against @durov is on a par with the affront that the bureaucrats (and their Franco-European-Western oligarch friends) consider themselves to have suffered. It seems to be a very big affront...
As for the future of Telegram or TON, everything will depend on the outcome of the things that are currently happening in the shadows of French jails and who is currently paying for and controlling Telegram and TON. On this subject, some are talking about associating the penalties for the possible refusal to collaborate with the blocking of Telegram and/or TON in France or Europe, bureaucratically speaking it will be a question of blocking a means used to circumvent the rules & laws.
It will still be extremely interesting.
@durov was impressively naive in going (in every sense of the word) to Paris, French citizenship or not.
@ZZ_0Z_Z0ZZ_fr
#PavelDurov #Telegram
🇫🇷 As a side-note concerning Pavel Durov's detention ( Garde a vue ) in France.
It is of public knowledge that detention conditions in France are very bad : no hygiene, difficulties in accessing toilet so people end up peeing in their cell which is not cleaned for every next person put under arrest.No food or very little and sandwich type, often no water for hours.Overcrowded cells, general noisy environment even if we can presume he has been given some form of "special treatment". . Not much if any sleep is possible in these conditions.
These abysmal conditions have been denounced for decades by human rights organisations even at a European level for not respecting human dignity, and basic human rights.
This is designed to break the person, create shock and dehumanize ..
#PavelDurov #Telegram #FreeDurov #France #GAV
It is of public knowledge that detention conditions in France are very bad : no hygiene, difficulties in accessing toilet so people end up peeing in their cell which is not cleaned for every next person put under arrest.No food or very little and sandwich type, often no water for hours.Overcrowded cells, general noisy environment even if we can presume he has been given some form of "special treatment". . Not much if any sleep is possible in these conditions.
These abysmal conditions have been denounced for decades by human rights organisations even at a European level for not respecting human dignity, and basic human rights.
This is designed to break the person, create shock and dehumanize ..
#PavelDurov #Telegram #FreeDurov #France #GAV
🇫🇷 In February of 2024, the French Criminal Code was amended and a new article was introduced which prosecutes owners of online service providers :
Article 323-3-2 creates liability for "a person whose activity consists of providing an online platform service" who is "knowingly allowing the transfer of products, content or services whose transfer, offer, acquisition or possession is manifestly illicit".
If they are found guilty, this is punishable by five years of imprisonment and a fine of 150,000 ($167,000) euros. If they carry out this offence as part of a 'criminal gang', they can be imprisoned for 10 years and fined 500,000 euros ($557,000).
The charges seem to reference this article directly. Durov is accused of "web-mastering an online platform in order to enable an illegal transaction in [an] organized group" (the latter is perhaps a reference to Telegram's employees, who might be regarded as co-conspirators).
Another charge refers to "criminal association with a view to committing a crime or an offense punishable by 5 or more years of imprisonment," which matches the punishments set out in Article 323-3-2.
Under Article 323-3-2, he faces liability for "offering, through an online platform provider or in support of transactions that they enable, intermediation or escrow services whose sole or main purpose is to implement, conceal or facilitate the operation" of illicit content.
Article 323-3-2 was likely created to deal with illegal dark web marketplaces like Silk Road, whose admin Ross Ulbricht was sentenced to life in a US prison 11 years ago. Certain features of Telegram, like the anonymised private channels, could be seen as rather similar.
"Refusal to communicate, at the request of competent authorities, information or documents necessary for carrying out and operating interceptions allowed by law."
The basis of the case is likely that law enforcement organisations have been reporting illegal content – notification will have made Telegram "knowingly" aware of what it is hosting – but have been getting slow or non-responses from the company.
The European Commission has already found Twitter/X to be in breach of the EU's Digital Services Act. This is likely to lead to billion-euro fines, but the Durov case suggests that Elon Musk also needs to think carefully about travelling to Europe, and especially France.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1828156715767898550.html
@CIG_telegram is making reference to :
Article 323-3-2 - Code pénal - Légifrance
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000047047989/2023-09-11
#PavelDurov #Telegram
Article 323-3-2 creates liability for "a person whose activity consists of providing an online platform service" who is "knowingly allowing the transfer of products, content or services whose transfer, offer, acquisition or possession is manifestly illicit".
If they are found guilty, this is punishable by five years of imprisonment and a fine of 150,000 ($167,000) euros. If they carry out this offence as part of a 'criminal gang', they can be imprisoned for 10 years and fined 500,000 euros ($557,000).
The charges seem to reference this article directly. Durov is accused of "web-mastering an online platform in order to enable an illegal transaction in [an] organized group" (the latter is perhaps a reference to Telegram's employees, who might be regarded as co-conspirators).
Another charge refers to "criminal association with a view to committing a crime or an offense punishable by 5 or more years of imprisonment," which matches the punishments set out in Article 323-3-2.
Under Article 323-3-2, he faces liability for "offering, through an online platform provider or in support of transactions that they enable, intermediation or escrow services whose sole or main purpose is to implement, conceal or facilitate the operation" of illicit content.
Article 323-3-2 was likely created to deal with illegal dark web marketplaces like Silk Road, whose admin Ross Ulbricht was sentenced to life in a US prison 11 years ago. Certain features of Telegram, like the anonymised private channels, could be seen as rather similar.
"Refusal to communicate, at the request of competent authorities, information or documents necessary for carrying out and operating interceptions allowed by law."
The basis of the case is likely that law enforcement organisations have been reporting illegal content – notification will have made Telegram "knowingly" aware of what it is hosting – but have been getting slow or non-responses from the company.
The European Commission has already found Twitter/X to be in breach of the EU's Digital Services Act. This is likely to lead to billion-euro fines, but the Durov case suggests that Elon Musk also needs to think carefully about travelling to Europe, and especially France.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1828156715767898550.html
@CIG_telegram is making reference to :
Article 323-3-2 - Code pénal - Légifrance
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000047047989/2023-09-11
#PavelDurov #Telegram
Threadreaderapp
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@ChrisO_wiki: 1/ One interesting aspect of the charges against Pavel Durov is the role that's likely to be played by Article 323-3-2 of France's Criminal Code, which only went into force in February 2024. Elon Musk...…
Pavel Durov's custody coming to an end, court decision expected
The custody of Telegram boss Pavel Durov, arrested on 12 charges related to organized crime, is due to end on Wednesday and could lead to an indictment.
The French justice system accuses him of not taking action against the dissemination of criminal or offending content on Telegram, which has more than 900 million users. This is something the company denies.
The police custody, which can last up to 96 hours, has been extended until Wednesday. The investigating judges will then have to decide whether to request that he be brought before the Paris judicial court, with a view to a possible indictment.
If he were indicted and his pre-trial detention requested, a judge of liberties and detention would have to decide at the end of the day whether to imprison him or place him under judicial supervision. Pavel Durov could also be released from police custody, without legal proceedings at this stage.
#FreeDurov #PavelDurov #Telegram
The custody of Telegram boss Pavel Durov, arrested on 12 charges related to organized crime, is due to end on Wednesday and could lead to an indictment.
The French justice system accuses him of not taking action against the dissemination of criminal or offending content on Telegram, which has more than 900 million users. This is something the company denies.
The police custody, which can last up to 96 hours, has been extended until Wednesday. The investigating judges will then have to decide whether to request that he be brought before the Paris judicial court, with a view to a possible indictment.
If he were indicted and his pre-trial detention requested, a judge of liberties and detention would have to decide at the end of the day whether to imprison him or place him under judicial supervision. Pavel Durov could also be released from police custody, without legal proceedings at this stage.
#FreeDurov #PavelDurov #Telegram
🇫🇷🇷🇺 Pavel Durov, CEO of Telegram has been placed under judicial supervision in France, prohibiting him from leaving the country. The Paris prosecutor's office also announced that Durov will have to pay a fine of 5 million euros as part of the conditions set by the court.
#PavelDurov #France #Telegram
#PavelDurov #France #Telegram
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🇫🇷🇷🇺 Footage of Pavel Durov's release on a 5 million € bail - 28/08/2024
#PavelDurov #Telegram #France
#PavelDurov #Telegram #France
UAE Cancels $20 Billion Rafale Deal with France despite Telegram CEO's Release
"The diplomatic fallout from the arrest of Telegram CEO Pavel Durov continues to escalate, as the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has decided to cancel its US$20 billion deal with France for 80 Rafale fighter jets. The decision comes in the wake of Durov’s brief detention by French authorities, a move that has strained relations between the UAE and France, despite Durov’s release on bail.
According to reports in the public domain, the UAE, a close ally of Durov, has expressed its anger over the arrest, viewing it as an affront to its sovereignty and a violation of diplomatic norms. Durov’s connections in the UAE, particularly his relationship with the Emir’s son, Zayed Al Nahyan, have only intensified the situation. The UAE government’s decision to halt the Rafale deal, which was signed with French aerospace company Dassault in 2021, is seen as a direct response to Durov’s treatment.
The deal, which was valued at US$20 billion, was one of the largest defense contracts signed by the UAE in recent years. It included the delivery of 80 Rafale fighter jets, with the first batch expected to arrive in 2027. The cancellation of this deal not only represents a significant economic loss for France but also marks a sharp deterioration in UAE-France relations, which had been strong and cooperative until this incident."
https://www.financialexpress.com/business/defence-uae-cancels-20-billion-rafale-deal-with-france-despite-telegram-ceos-release-3595771/
ROBINMG 🚀
#Telegram #PavelDurov #France #Rafale #UAE
"The diplomatic fallout from the arrest of Telegram CEO Pavel Durov continues to escalate, as the United Arab Emirates (UAE) has decided to cancel its US$20 billion deal with France for 80 Rafale fighter jets. The decision comes in the wake of Durov’s brief detention by French authorities, a move that has strained relations between the UAE and France, despite Durov’s release on bail.
According to reports in the public domain, the UAE, a close ally of Durov, has expressed its anger over the arrest, viewing it as an affront to its sovereignty and a violation of diplomatic norms. Durov’s connections in the UAE, particularly his relationship with the Emir’s son, Zayed Al Nahyan, have only intensified the situation. The UAE government’s decision to halt the Rafale deal, which was signed with French aerospace company Dassault in 2021, is seen as a direct response to Durov’s treatment.
The deal, which was valued at US$20 billion, was one of the largest defense contracts signed by the UAE in recent years. It included the delivery of 80 Rafale fighter jets, with the first batch expected to arrive in 2027. The cancellation of this deal not only represents a significant economic loss for France but also marks a sharp deterioration in UAE-France relations, which had been strong and cooperative until this incident."
https://www.financialexpress.com/business/defence-uae-cancels-20-billion-rafale-deal-with-france-despite-telegram-ceos-release-3595771/
ROBINMG 🚀
#Telegram #PavelDurov #France #Rafale #UAE
The Financial Express
UAE cancels $20 billion Rafale deal with France despite Telegram CEO’s release
The decision comes in the wake of Durov's brief detention by French authorities
Pavel Durov and the Abuse of Law | Craig Murray –
The detention of Pavel Durov is being portrayed as a result of the EU Digital Services Act. But having spent my day reading the EU Services Act (a task I would not wish upon my worst enemy), it does not appear to me to say what it is being portrayed as saying.
EU Acts are horribly dense and complex, and are published as “Regulations” and “Articles”. Both cover precisely the same ground, but for purposes of enforcement the more detailed “Regulations” are the more important, and those are referred to below. The “Articles” are entirely consistent with this.
So, for example, Regulation 20 makes the “intermediary service”, in this case Telegram, only responsible for illegal activity using its service if it has deliberately collaborated in the illegal activity.
#PavelDurov #Telegram #EU #DSA #France
The detention of Pavel Durov is being portrayed as a result of the EU Digital Services Act. But having spent my day reading the EU Services Act (a task I would not wish upon my worst enemy), it does not appear to me to say what it is being portrayed as saying.
EU Acts are horribly dense and complex, and are published as “Regulations” and “Articles”. Both cover precisely the same ground, but for purposes of enforcement the more detailed “Regulations” are the more important, and those are referred to below. The “Articles” are entirely consistent with this.
So, for example, Regulation 20 makes the “intermediary service”, in this case Telegram, only responsible for illegal activity using its service if it has deliberately collaborated in the illegal activity.
#PavelDurov #Telegram #EU #DSA #France
EU Tightens Grip on Telegram With New Probe Following France Arrest | Reclaim The Net
The EU is putting additional pressure on Telegram, after one of its member countries, France, arrested the platform’s co-founder and CEO Pavel Durov.
The EU has launched an investigation into the number of users the platform has in the bloc, and whether the number reported by Telegram is correct.
The importance of this is the EU’s ability to censor using the Digital Services Act (DSA), which applies services with over 45 million users.
In February, Telegram said that their number is 41 million, but the EU has chosen precisely this moment to start looking for ways to determine if this reporting was accurate – or, more likely, try to prove that it isn’t.
#PavelDurov #Telegram #EU #DSA
The EU is putting additional pressure on Telegram, after one of its member countries, France, arrested the platform’s co-founder and CEO Pavel Durov.
The EU has launched an investigation into the number of users the platform has in the bloc, and whether the number reported by Telegram is correct.
The importance of this is the EU’s ability to censor using the Digital Services Act (DSA), which applies services with over 45 million users.
In February, Telegram said that their number is 41 million, but the EU has chosen precisely this moment to start looking for ways to determine if this reporting was accurate – or, more likely, try to prove that it isn’t.
#PavelDurov #Telegram #EU #DSA
BBC scraping the barrel to ban free speech! Their days of information monopoly are over!
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❌ Pavel Durov is banned from leaving France until March 2025 — Paris Match
According to the publication, Pavel will pay the bail in parts: €1 million “immediately” and €500 thousand every month for eight months.
The Telegram founder is also required to report to the police station twice a week.
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According to the publication, Pavel will pay the bail in parts: €1 million “immediately” and €500 thousand every month for eight months.
The Telegram founder is also required to report to the police station twice a week.
@AussieCossack
#PavelDurov #Telegram
Pavel Durov
🎉 Telegram has reached 10 million paid subscribers. 10 million people are now enjoying Telegram Premium! 🆕 Today, we’re introducing new features while phasing out a few outdated ones. ⛔️ We’ve removed the People Nearby feature, which was used by less than…
🟡 Durov announces two feature cuts in Telegram, and “development” of censorship .
This will satisfy the French "judicial" bureaucrats.
🔶 The first dismantling is to remove the addition of images in articles published on Telegraph ... Because some people send bad images. This means that articles like these are now impossible to create and even to modify. Obviously, these must have particularly annoyed Westerners. Here they are satisfied.
Similarly, those who embedded images in their Telegram articles by hosting them on Telegraph will have to find alternative hosting.
So we have confirmation: bureaucracy is indeed a communicable disease, French bureaucrats have contaminated the ecosystem of our beloved messaging service. We particularly "like" the extremism implemented in this unjustified decision and the absence of notice that would have allowed adding a notification in the articles to refer readers to the new host.
My Telegraph articles containing an image become impossible to edit, articles in progress cannot be completed.
If the logic continues, we will no longer be able to send images, videos and files on Telegram, because some users publish bad content there. Then it will be the turn of the text? This is really a rotten decision, to remain polite and courteous in this public version.
🔺 The people who linked their Telegraph account to their Telegram account being perfectly identified , could at least have been allowed to continue using Telegraph normally ‼️
This tells us about the future. At any time, an important feature can be destroyed to satisfy French bureaucratic requirements. It's all well and good to take advantage of this to celebrate 10 million premium users, but this is not the time to invest in an ecosystem that is being dismantled .
👉 Well, you will have understood my appreciation of the trend that our messaging is taking under French influence. It was unfortunately predictable, and I expect much worse.
➡️ To respond to this destruction of Telegraph and this desire to push out journalists and bloggers, there is of course the choice of writing articles on LiveJournal, VK or other platforms, there is no lack of competition.
💡 First of all, there is one trick left, the one I had adopted from the beginning, which consists of using a Telegram channel as file hosting . If the channel disappears, the article loses its content, if it is geographically censored, displaying the images requires the use of a VPN.
😐 Eventually, we will end up migrating to other platforms. This is unfortunate, because Telegram and its associated services were technically a superb achievement that we will not find again any time soon with the competition, they were extremely practical to use. We will have to return to the quagmire of separate platforms, poorly designed, not optimized, paying at an exorbitant price, filled with ads, without cross-platform applications, without a set of extremely useful integrated services etc. But it will be done if necessary, very quickly and without going back.
Let us thank Durov for having exceptionally warned of this degradation of the service, all the authors would have searched for hours for the reason of a "technical problem".
🔶 The other dismantling is the officialization of the destruction of the functionality allowing to find other consenting Telegram users nearby. This will now be reserved for companies , because money is not the priority, of course, and it will be supervised .
🔶 In conclusion, he announces that 2024 will mark the transformation of Telegram with the development of censorship . Well, it's off to a good start, indeed, we're even catching up on the delayed semester!
👉 We understand that Paris suggests that he ask for permission to leave the territory ...
Via @ZZ_0Z_Z0ZZ_fr
#PavelDurov #Telegram #BigBrother
#Censorship
This will satisfy the French "judicial" bureaucrats.
🔶 The first dismantling is to remove the addition of images in articles published on Telegraph ... Because some people send bad images. This means that articles like these are now impossible to create and even to modify. Obviously, these must have particularly annoyed Westerners. Here they are satisfied.
Similarly, those who embedded images in their Telegram articles by hosting them on Telegraph will have to find alternative hosting.
So we have confirmation: bureaucracy is indeed a communicable disease, French bureaucrats have contaminated the ecosystem of our beloved messaging service. We particularly "like" the extremism implemented in this unjustified decision and the absence of notice that would have allowed adding a notification in the articles to refer readers to the new host.
My Telegraph articles containing an image become impossible to edit, articles in progress cannot be completed.
If the logic continues, we will no longer be able to send images, videos and files on Telegram, because some users publish bad content there. Then it will be the turn of the text? This is really a rotten decision, to remain polite and courteous in this public version.
🔺 The people who linked their Telegraph account to their Telegram account being perfectly identified , could at least have been allowed to continue using Telegraph normally ‼️
This tells us about the future. At any time, an important feature can be destroyed to satisfy French bureaucratic requirements. It's all well and good to take advantage of this to celebrate 10 million premium users, but this is not the time to invest in an ecosystem that is being dismantled .
👉 Well, you will have understood my appreciation of the trend that our messaging is taking under French influence. It was unfortunately predictable, and I expect much worse.
➡️ To respond to this destruction of Telegraph and this desire to push out journalists and bloggers, there is of course the choice of writing articles on LiveJournal, VK or other platforms, there is no lack of competition.
💡 First of all, there is one trick left, the one I had adopted from the beginning, which consists of using a Telegram channel as file hosting . If the channel disappears, the article loses its content, if it is geographically censored, displaying the images requires the use of a VPN.
😐 Eventually, we will end up migrating to other platforms. This is unfortunate, because Telegram and its associated services were technically a superb achievement that we will not find again any time soon with the competition, they were extremely practical to use. We will have to return to the quagmire of separate platforms, poorly designed, not optimized, paying at an exorbitant price, filled with ads, without cross-platform applications, without a set of extremely useful integrated services etc. But it will be done if necessary, very quickly and without going back.
Let us thank Durov for having exceptionally warned of this degradation of the service, all the authors would have searched for hours for the reason of a "technical problem".
🔶 The other dismantling is the officialization of the destruction of the functionality allowing to find other consenting Telegram users nearby. This will now be reserved for companies , because money is not the priority, of course, and it will be supervised .
🔶 In conclusion, he announces that 2024 will mark the transformation of Telegram with the development of censorship . Well, it's off to a good start, indeed, we're even catching up on the delayed semester!
👉 We understand that Paris suggests that he ask for permission to leave the territory ...
Via @ZZ_0Z_Z0ZZ_fr
#PavelDurov #Telegram #BigBrother
#Censorship